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TCL: Supplementary Material, II: WaltonJanuary 10, 2006
Walton Ford and I met when we were both sixteen and at the Rhode Island School of Design summer program. He was one of those rare creatures who was born with phenomenal talent. The drawings he did at four and five would put most adult artists to shame. We eventually lost touch and only crossed each others' paths decades later by which time he had emerged as one of the top painters in the NY fine art scene. He makes enormous (sometime twenty feet long) watercolors of animals. Each is life sized and breathtakingly accurate. They are clearly influenced by early naturalist/illustrators like John James Audubon and Carl Bagner and yet he has added political allegories to his work that make them very contemporary. ![]() Danny: So what role does journaling play in your work? I know you were very influenced by Audubon and by his work in the field. How does that sense of process and discovery go into your paintings? Walton: I like to see Art as a tool. Audubon cut things out, pasting things together, scribbled notes to printer on it... The process of making was part of the work. The drawings weren't the end result, the work was the final engravings so he allowed himself the freedom to be so cavalier with his work, not precious. I make my paintings look like they have that attitude, that feeling of unfinished ness, like it was done in the field. The writing focuses it, explains it. Danny: So what's your attitude towards the fine art world? You have always made figurative paintings even when they were hardly in vogue. Isn't it a little surprising that despite the accessibility of your work you have had such success? Walton: I got a lot of very positive feedback on how I could draw and how I could see when I was young. I was a very precocious talent. My daughter, who’s a talented violinist won't practice on that frantic, 18 hour a day level. It's different in art than in music or sport. Art is a lot more forgiving you can be really good without working quite as hard. And there’s not that competitive thing battling for a small number of slots. But the drop out rate, the number of people who can't handle, can't go to the studio every day, is enormous. I was incredibly persistent and didn't take no, I wasn't terribly interested in being trendy. For many years it was not cool to do what I was doing. I had to not be discouraged by the fact that I was doing something that at the moment might not be hip. Now there's a trend toward representational art, but so much of it strikes me as incredibly lazy and lacking in thought or depth. It's just about irony and it's hard to compare with the great portrait painters of the past, to Sergeant, for example. I feel like I don’t want to waste your time if you're going to bother paying attention to what I've done, I want to at least have put in as much thought in doing it as the person looking at it. I didn't want to stop even if others who I didn’t think were as capable were getting more success. And still something encouraging happened very year making it worth while if I looked as a long term thing. I still have this feeling that I don't quite belong. Those who get success much younger have a sense of entitlement I haven't got. I have to try to develop that attitude and stop cringing, "Thank you for the attention." My work is so accessible that for ages people made me think was stupid. I think it's more important to make something that's great art and is also popular, not just for other art professionals. It's just a feeling that driven into you as soon as you come to New York, that being a populist isn’t interesting, creating narrative is stupid. Look at Goya, Daumier, Doré,etc. People are very suspicious of craftsmanship. But Mathew Barney and John Curren are craftsman that are considered successful, intelligent artists so it's good for me, that benefits all artists who care about carefully making beautiful pictures. There's no meaningful distinction between art and craft. Once you've sussed out what the idea for a picture will be, it's all craft, it's all about making your picture. You need technique. Danny: Is it terribly hard to be a fine artist? To make it in that world? Walton: The hardest part of being an artist is not getting noticed. I worked very, very hard on a show about ten years ago and I thought it was a very good show. It went up came down and no one wrote about it, no one bought anything, and I felt like I had done all this work for no reason. Being able to get over that was very hard but kept me around for when people started to admire my work. You want people to admire what you do. I don't care if it’s vanity or greed or what the motivation was when I looked at a work of art. The work redeems it. Danny: Yeah, but practically...how did you survive until you made it? Walton: I was able to survive for years as an artist, living on grants and selling a few paintings and then my big show was a flop and I had to go to work for the first time for years, doing restoration carpentry, wood refinishing, and some illustrations work, book covers and things. Making museum exhibits, building scale models of ships. It wasn't what I wanted to be doing but it made ends meet. Danny: Is it important to be an artist? Walton: At the end of the day, the only thing that human beings have to feel proud about is what sort of art did that culture leave behind, what sort of music, food, creativity, writing, the objects they made. That's the value and legacy that will endure. In traditional societies, the making of things was tied to the survival of the group. They didn't worry about justifying their motivations. They all knew they were doing it for the interest of the group. The rugs on the floor, the paintings on the wall. Danny: So what's changed? It sure doesn't feel that way today. Walton: People nowadays are made to feel self conscious about drawings, about singing, about being different. And professionals are to blame for mystifying the role of the artist to the point that people feel stupid if they don't understand things. And there is no attempt to educate people as to why the things that they may not understand right away are worth understanding. And then there's this tortured pathetic version of an artist. Ed Harris showing Jackson Pollock as an inarticulate bastard, Kurt Cobain blows his brains out. Danny:So is it worth it? Would your recommend that people try to make a living as an artist? Walton:The advantage I have over people who don't do this for a living is that I get to do it to think about it all day, every day. I get to wake up each day and just think about making some thing cool. Danny: That does sound cool. ![]() You can see some example of Walton's paintings and video clips of an interview from PBS here. |
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A record of my exploration into all aspects of drawing, illustrated journaling, creativity, and the inspiring aspects of art. By the author of "Everyday Matters," "The Creative License", and "An Illustrated Life" and other books.
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Comments
PLEASE continue posting these interviews. thanks
dana
Posted by: dana.jenkins | January 10, 2006 10:50 AM
Even seeing Walton's sometimes visceral work in a book had a big effect on me - I had weird dreams that night. Hope I get to see the full scale versions some time. That comment that a beaver is as big as a 50 gallon oil drum gives some inkling of the power the watercolours would have.
Posted by: Richard | January 10, 2006 10:58 AM
Shucks Danny, you have it all over this guy.
Your book is at my elbow. Every time I open it I discover something new.
Thank you for the hours that push me to doing something different with my drawings. I am learning, thanks to you, to be more open and letting go.
Jan Caldwell
Posted by: Jan Caldwell | January 10, 2006 11:08 AM
Danny...
I found out about Walton Ford a few months ago and tracked down a copy of his book. I love his naturalistic-Audobon-meets-politics concept, and his execution is amazing. Thanks for more info about this incredibly creative artist.
Posted by: Paul V | January 10, 2006 12:10 PM
Danny, I loved reading this bit of your interview with Walton Ford. It's instructive to hear how he had a flop show but kept at it. He's such a huge talent it's amazing that happened. It's great for all of us who love his work that he has the drive to back it up. I enjoyed your sketches of him at work.
Roz
Posted by: roz | January 10, 2006 01:51 PM
Danny, this was a really fascinating post - a fabulous insight into the creative process of an incredibly mega talented artist who is living out his dream. The scale of the work is hugely impressive as well, it does bring to mind a range of follow-up questions concerning technique: paper management, framing etc - I hope at some point the PBS segment makes it way down under.
Posted by: Detlef | January 10, 2006 05:18 PM
Wow..that is just graet! Keep it up!
Posted by: G-Man | January 11, 2006 10:32 PM
Great article, thank you! I am writing a thesis as I am an MFA candidate and I have done quite a bit of research on Walton Ford. I use similar subject matter, but in very different format.
I sent him a letter (snail mail) a few weeks ago asking if I could have access to an image of one of his paintings "Martha" which depicts Audubon painting Passenger Pigeons from dead birds. I would love to get a jpeg of this painting for my paper. Any suggestions?
Thanks! Debra
Posted by: Debra van Hulsteyn | February 27, 2006 04:13 PM